[OPINION] Movie Making

[OPINION] Movie Making
« on: August 17, 2012, 12:18:12 PM »

Maggot

Posts: 8
As known as Thenewkillers

Hi everybody !

I guess I'm new in TF2 Jump community, so I'll first introduce myself.

I'm Weap0wned, a young French TF2 player and also a jump addict. I've discovered this website while watching at all Dellort's awesome movies on YouTube. I decided to sign in because on this forum people seems to be nice even with beginners.
I jump only with soldier, I guess when I'll improve my skills I'll start demo. I'm not really good at jumping, I finished jump_aventure but that's all. I'm not really confident with wallpogo, speedpogo and synchronizing rockets.
Finally, I'm a movie maker (not expert movies), I'm using Adobe Premiere CS6.
Here is my first movie, as a Sniper :


[TF2] Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie

I'm also going to create my own website with all my creations.

That's it for the boring part (sorry about that), let's talk about something more interesting.

I'm going to realize a new TF2 movie called "Ghost" (?), this will be my first jump movie. During this video, I'll go through all the jump_aventure map as a soldier. My problem is : what softwares/tools should I use to take scenes ? I need to have first person view, third person view and also other cameras. Here are my different ideas :

Fraps : really powerfull software, the one I used for my precedent movie, but only for first (and also third) person view (I have to record all by my own, at the same time I play). I guess it's the perfect one for first person view.

Source Movie Maker : also awesome tool (thanks Valve), even if you don't use animations. I thought it can be useful for camera views, but I didn't use it often before.

Replay : I never use it. I don't even know how it works, so if you're using it, tell me if it will help me

Others : I saw on a random post this message :

You can record both types of demos at the same time. Start up a server, type "tv_enable 1". Reload the map, then type "tv_record jump" and "record jump". Leave at least 500 ticks before and after the jump, once you've recorded it type "stop" and "tv_stoprecord".

I don't know what he was talking about, and I cannot check this because I'm in Canada so I don't have access to my computer (this message was posted with an iTouch).

I guess that's all I'm thinking about, thanks for your help and have a nice day

Weap0wned

PS: please excuse my horrible English, I'm just sixteen so that's a really hard for me to express myself in English :/

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Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie (my first one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgGwpxU3OA

Dr. Heinz	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 12:48:06 PM »
Rocketeer Posts: 426	Quote from: Weap0wned on August 17, 2012, 12:18:12 PM Others : I saw on a random post this message : You can record both types of demos at the same time. Start up a server, type "tv_enable 1". Reload the map, then type "tv_record jump" and "record jump". Leave at least 500 ticks before and after the jump, once you've recorded it type "stop" and "tv_stoprecord". I don't know what he was talking about I think it was Dellort who said that. You can record a POV and STV demo at the same time in a serveryou create. Open the console, type "tv_enable 1". Load the map you want to play through the console with "map "name of the map"". Once loaded, open the concole, type: tv_record "name of the demo"" and "record "name of the demo"" and to stop it type "stop" and "tv_stoprecord". Now you should have two demos in your tf file. One is a POV demo and the other is a STV demo. « Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 01:41:20 PM by Dr. Heinz » ---------------------------

Weap0wned	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 12:58:36 PM »
Maggot Posts: 8 As known as Thenewkillers	Hi, and thanks for quick answer. I have several questions about what you told me : - what are POV and STV ? Movie format ? - the files wil be saved in tf folder, that's what you said ? - what difference between recording with this tool and using Fraps ? What about cameras, is that first person view ? Anyway thanks for your answer, I'll try it when I'll be home --------------------------- Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie (my first one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgGwpxU3OA

Kairu927	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 01:15:58 PM »
Rocketman Posts: 630	Quote from: Weap0wned on August 17, 2012, 12:58:36 PM Hi, and thanks for quick answer. I have several questions about what you told me : - what are POV and STV ? Movie format ? - the files wil be saved in tf folder, that's what you said ? - what difference between recording with this tool and using Fraps ? What about cameras, is that first person view ? Anyway thanks for your answer, I'll try it when I'll be home POV stands for point of view. When you just record a demo normally, you're recording it from your point of view. STV is something built into all Source games. SourceTV. When you host a local server type these few lines. Code: [Select] `tv_enable 1`This will enable STV Code: [Select] `map MAPNAME`This reload's the map, STV won't be enabled until a reload Code: [Select] `tv_record DEMONAME`Starts the stv demo recording. type Code: [Select] `tv_stoprecord` when done. Basically, this is from a spectator's point of view. You can use free camera, check every player, third person, etc. Your normal Point of view will only allow first person, and a very bad third person through use of cheat commands. STV demos are how you see all the angles from far away.

Weap0wned	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 01:25:57 PM »
Maggot Posts: 8 As known as Thenewkillers	Your answer is really clear and complete, thanks a lot for that. However, this seems pretty great, but I guess it will need at least 2 players, because you can't play and record as spectator at the same time, right ? Maybe should I record first view like this, and use another solution for cameras (for example on SMM you can use cameras after have played). Anyway tell me if I'm wrong :/ I guess this type of recording seems perfect for movies, so maybe I'll should ask a friend to help me Thanks again for everything, and enjoy your day. EDIT : I supposed I'm wrong, because that's a local server, so another guy can't join the map. « Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 01:28:22 PM by Weap0wned » --------------------------- Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie (my first one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgGwpxU3OA

Kairu927	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 01:37:52 PM »
Rocketman Posts: 630	Quote from: Weap0wned on August 17, 2012, 01:25:57 PM Your answer is really clear and complete, thanks a lot for that. However, this seems pretty great, but I guess it will need at least 2 players, because you can't play and record as spectator at the same time, right ? Maybe should I record first view like this, and use another solution for cameras (for example on SMM you can use cameras after have played). Anyway tell me if I'm wrong :/ I guess this type of recording seems perfect for movies, so maybe I'll should ask a friend to help me Thanks again for everything, and enjoy your day. EDIT : I supposed I'm wrong, because that's a local server, so another guy can't join the map. SourceTV IS the spectator. That's why we enable it. When you tv_record, it will get EVERYTHING a spectator can see. Every player, and free cam of the map. But just like being in spectator, it can look a little bit laggy.

Dr. Heinz	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 01:47:35 PM »
Rocketeer Posts: 426	Quote from: Weap0wned on August 17, 2012, 12:58:36 PM Hi, and thanks for quick answer. I have several questions about what you told me : - what are POV and STV ? Movie format ? - the files wil be saved in tf folder, that's what you said ? - what difference between recording with this tool and using Fraps ? What about cameras, is that first person view ? Anyway thanks for your answer, I'll try it when I'll be home For the thing Kairu did not yet anwser. - They are demos, so you still got to record those. The demo will be saved as demoname.dem - To find your tf folder: C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\[username]\team fortress 2\tf\ EDIT: To play your demos. Either type in the console "playdemo "demoname"" or press Shift+F2. A small menu opens where you can load , fast forward or go to a specific tick and there are some other functions. « Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 01:54:32 PM by Dr. Heinz » ---------------------------

Weap0wned	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 06:37:42 PM »
Maggot Posts: 8 As known as Thenewkillers	That's AWESOME I never knew TF2 could do that ! I have to try ASAP. Anyway last question about this : in the dellort's movies for example, I never saw the number of munitions, or life, or any information displayed (I guess that's better), is it because of a script, of the demo, or any command ? --------------------------- Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie (my first one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgGwpxU3OA

Drexen	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 07:01:10 PM »
Rocketeer Posts: 283	cl_drawhud 0

Weap0wned	Re: [OPINION] Movie Making « Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 07:21:58 PM »
Maggot Posts: 8 As known as Thenewkillers	Perfect, I guess I have all I need Thanks everyone for your help, and enjoy TF2 ! --------------------------- Headshot - A TF2 Sniper Movie (my first one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQgGwpxU3OA

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